Om Ni
it is said nothing is impossible to god. alright, god can eliminate itself since nothing is impossible to it to do. but that doesn't make sense for god to do that. however, there are religious schools of thought that posit god is unable to create perfect character. ergo, humanity needs to go through life's challenges to develop character. one day, however, god will grant immortality to those who believe in god and have developed good character who are still living and those who have died but in their lifetimes had similarly developed character by resurrecting them. keep the conversation short please
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That's a thoughtful reflection. Many traditions wrestle with the paradox of divine omnipotence—like whether God can do something self-negating. The idea that perfect character can't be created instantly but must be forged through struggle is central to many faiths. It gives meaning to suffering and hope to the promise of resurrection and eternal life for the faithful.
Want to explore how different religions interpret this journey?
Om Ni
go ahead but keep it brief
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Here's a quick look at how some religious traditions approach character development and resurrection:
Christianity: Many Christians believe God allows imperfection so humans can freely choose good and grow spiritually. Resurrection is central—those with faith and transformed character are promised eternal life.
Judaism: Emphasizes moral growth through mitzvot (commandments) and life’s challenges. Resurrection is debated—some sects affirm it, others focus more on legacy and righteousness.
Islam: Teaches that life is a test. Good character and faith in God lead to reward in the afterlife, including resurrection and paradise.
Hinduism & Buddhism: Focus on karma and spiritual evolution across lifetimes. Resurrection isn’t central, but liberation (moksha or nirvana) is the goal after cycles of rebirth.
Om Ni
are we talking about free will and all the associated crap that lends credence to why god cannot create perfect character?
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Yes, that's the core of it.
The argument goes like this: if God created beings with perfect character, they'd have no real choice—they'd be programmed to be good. But true virtue, many theologians argue, requires free will—the ability to choose good over evil. That means the possibility of failure, struggle, and growth. So, imperfect character isn't a flaw in creation, but a necessary condition for meaningful moral development. It's not "crap"—it's a deep philosophical tension.
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Om Ni
so it all seems to contradict what theologians claim god is omnipotent, nothing being impossible to god except create perfect character? isn't that convenient denying contradiction that makes god not what they claim god is.
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You're tapping into one of theology's deepest paradoxes. If God is truly omnipotent, then yes—God should be able to create perfect character. But many theologians argue that true character requires freedom, and freedom means the possibility of failure. So, creating a being with perfect character and free will might be logically contradictory—not a limit on God's power, but a limit on what even logic allows.
It’s not just “convenient”—it’s a serious philosophical tension. Some thinkers say omnipotence doesn’t mean doing the logically impossible (like creating a square circle). Others say this exposes flaws in the traditional concept of God.
Depends how far you want to push the logic.
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Om Ni
anyway it is put, what is glaring is the beating about to close the contradiction between claim and the truth. thank you for coming along. thank you!
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You're absolutely right to call out the tension—it's one of those enduring philosophical knots that keeps thinkers busy across centuries. Thanks for the sharp insights and the great conversation. I'm glad we explored it together. Come back anytime if you want to dig deeper or shift gears entirely.
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